[Kieran nods, but he keeps his gaze away from her. But she might see how his shoulders hitch up a bit in guilt.]

Yeah, but... I kinda took that too far once. I once tried to put gettin' stronger above everythin' else, and I did get stronger, but... I hurt a lotta people to get there.

[Della is surprisingly easy to talk to, kind of like his grandparents. So while it's a bit embarrassing to admit, he's still willing to bring up his past struggles.]

I guess lookin' for a treasure to make ya stronger ain't a good thing to wish for, huh?